Keep in mind these are x2, not x4 PCIe lanes. But looks to be a pretty decent bulk storage drive if prices stay low. Although, QLC drives will be even better at that price wise; I think Samsung & a few others are releasing next year.
x2 is still ~ 1.8 GB/s real world for large transfers, which would be a mind blowing level of performance in a sub $100 device. Most likely though these devices won't be bottlenecked by the PCIe interface though.
Yes, but is the NVME hardware interface really that much more complex than the SATA interface to justify the cost difference, or is the dramatic speed increase is being used to justify an arbitrarily high price for the controllers and overall product offering? And hence much increased profit margin, with price gouging based on a perceived dramatic speed increase. Greater speeds should cost significantly more even if the cost of production is not significantly more. Consumers are gullible.
It's more expensive largely because it's new while SATA has been around for almost two decades and everyone has had controllers in production for ages.
Exactly. "Oh it's new and faster so it costs more!"
No. It doesn't need to cost more and nearly EVERY single motherboard supports M.2. be it sata based or nvme. Usually marketing rubbish. Heck SATA could be faster but why do that when you can create another new spec to fool people out of their money.
You need to understand what he said and he's right. Let me spell it out for you - NVMe drive should NOT cost 2-3x more than SATA drive while production cost of NVMe drive is only a little higher (like 20%?***) than SATA's.
***I need to do some research on the difference between production costs of the two. But I doubt that they'll let us know the true. In the mean time, I stick with 20% guess and they stick with price gouging their new product.
You have to remember the industry is converting over to 3D NAND right now, which is a huge change in equipment, but it's reusable well into the future. That's why QLC is being developed as a way to make things cheaper as counter pressure to the temporarily decreasing fab capacity.
Don't fall for it! Once the lower end drives are everywhere it gives the top end boys, Samsung, an avenue to increase the price of the faster parts. You and I have seem it soooooo many times over the years.
It would be wonderful if this could beat the Samsung 850 EVO (SATA) drive in most metrics - this could become the mainstream drive to beat. I sure hope they send a review sample over. Nice job with pricing this one Adata.
I have a Asus FX553VD laptop and have fitted the ASX6000NP- 256GT-C and the maximum Write i get on various tools is 200MB/S and Read of just under 900MB/S
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Flunk - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
I hope you guys get a review sample, if it's even remotely competitive this could be a game-changer price-wise.CheapSushi - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
Keep in mind these are x2, not x4 PCIe lanes. But looks to be a pretty decent bulk storage drive if prices stay low. Although, QLC drives will be even better at that price wise; I think Samsung & a few others are releasing next year.cfenton - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
Does that matter if they can hit the advertised speeds with x2? I don't think interface matters much as long as it isn't bottlenecking the drive.saratoga4 - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
x2 is still ~ 1.8 GB/s real world for large transfers, which would be a mind blowing level of performance in a sub $100 device. Most likely though these devices won't be bottlenecked by the PCIe interface though.ImSpartacus - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
I wonder if we'll see more 2x PCIe drives in the future with PCIe 4.0.This might not end up being such a disadvantage if they get a "2.0" revision out in the next two-ish years.
BrokenCrayons - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
That's $10 more than I paid for a MLC SSD three months ago. When are we going to actually see cost benefits of TLC in the consumer space?Dr. Swag - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
This is nvme thoughCheapSushi - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
As Dr. Swag said, was your MLC SSD SATA/AHCI or NVMe/PCIe? Big difference price wise.vgray35@hotmail.com - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
Yes, but is the NVME hardware interface really that much more complex than the SATA interface to justify the cost difference, or is the dramatic speed increase is being used to justify an arbitrarily high price for the controllers and overall product offering? And hence much increased profit margin, with price gouging based on a perceived dramatic speed increase. Greater speeds should cost significantly more even if the cost of production is not significantly more. Consumers are gullible.saratoga4 - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
It's more expensive largely because it's new while SATA has been around for almost two decades and everyone has had controllers in production for ages.damianrobertjones - Saturday, October 28, 2017 - link
Exactly. "Oh it's new and faster so it costs more!"No. It doesn't need to cost more and nearly EVERY single motherboard supports M.2. be it sata based or nvme. Usually marketing rubbish. Heck SATA could be faster but why do that when you can create another new spec to fool people out of their money.
supdawgwtfd - Saturday, October 28, 2017 - link
Would you buy a NVME drive with exactly the same performance as its SATA equivalent?I certainly wouldn't...
The higher performance needs a more powerful controller. Simple as that.
sonny73n - Sunday, October 29, 2017 - link
So what?!You need to understand what he said and he's right. Let me spell it out for you - NVMe drive should NOT cost 2-3x more than SATA drive while production cost of NVMe drive is only a little higher (like 20%?***) than SATA's.
***I need to do some research on the difference between production costs of the two. But I doubt that they'll let us know the true. In the mean time, I stick with 20% guess and they stick with price gouging their new product.
tyaty1 - Monday, October 30, 2017 - link
I would rather get a MLC SATA SSD. Based on my experience, both the 2,5 Samsung 850 EVO and Crucial M550 gives smooth experience with Win 10.patrickjp93 - Monday, October 30, 2017 - link
You have to remember the industry is converting over to 3D NAND right now, which is a huge change in equipment, but it's reusable well into the future. That's why QLC is being developed as a way to make things cheaper as counter pressure to the temporarily decreasing fab capacity.LauRoman - Friday, October 27, 2017 - link
I had no idea Realtek made memory controllers.damianrobertjones - Saturday, October 28, 2017 - link
Don't fall for it! Once the lower end drives are everywhere it gives the top end boys, Samsung, an avenue to increase the price of the faster parts. You and I have seem it soooooo many times over the years.YoloPascual - Saturday, October 28, 2017 - link
I almost bought a 256gb 600p. I am gonna wait for this one.Rocket321 - Monday, October 30, 2017 - link
It would be wonderful if this could beat the Samsung 850 EVO (SATA) drive in most metrics - this could become the mainstream drive to beat. I sure hope they send a review sample over. Nice job with pricing this one Adata.LorenzoVV - Friday, September 21, 2018 - link
I have a Asus FX553VD laptop and have fitted the ASX6000NP-256GT-C and the maximum Write i get on various tools is 200MB/S and Read of just under 900MB/S
Where can i find the Problem?