Retailers Begin to Sell Pre-Binned AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs
by Anton Shilov on August 14, 2019 3:00 PM EST- Posted in
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For many PC enthusiasts, overclocking means a lot of fun, both in terms of process and the end result. To a large degree overclocking is a lottery that is never guaranteed, and when it comes to AMD’s latest Ryzen 3000 processors, getting a CPU with high overclocking potential is not easy at the moment. This has left an opening in the market for retailers who are selling pre-binned chips with guaranteed overclocking potential.
There are several stores that sell pre-binned CPUs and other components: Silicon Lottery from Texas, USA; Caseking from Germany; and Overclockers UK. Silicon Lottery was the first company to start offering pre-binned AMD Ryzen 3900X processors last month and by now their entire first batch has been sold. Meanwhile, this week Caseking began to sell AMD’s latest CPUs with a guaranteed overclocking potential.
The list of pre-binned AMD’s Ryzen 3000-series processors to be available from Caseking includes Ryzen 9 3900X, Ryzen 7 3700X, and Ryzen 5 3600, but at present only the model 3700X is available. All the CPUs are pretested by Roman "der8auer" Hartung, a well-known overclocker, using Prime95 26.6 software with an FFT length of 1344 for at least one hour with AMD’s Wraith Prism cooler. Meanwhile, voltage of the chips is kept under 1.4 V.
| Pre-Binned AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs by CaseKing.de | ||||||||
| Cores/ Threads |
Default Clocks Base/Boost |
Guaranteed OC (base) | L3 | TDP (default) |
Price (EUR) |
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| Ryzen 9 3900X | 12/24 | 3.8/4.6 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 64 MB | 105 W | €619 | ||
| 4.25 GHz | €599 | |||||||
| 4.2 GHz | €579 | |||||||
| Ryzen 7 3700X | 8/16 | 3.6/4.4 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 32 MB | 65 W | €449 | ||
| 4.25 GHz | €429 | |||||||
| 4.20 GHz | €399 | |||||||
| Ryzen 5 3600 | 6/12 | 3.6/4.2 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 32 MB | 65 W | €300 | ||
| 4.25 GHz | €280 | |||||||
| 4.2 GHz | €260 | |||||||
Pre-binned processors from Caseking cost €50 – €100 more than regular models, so overclocking in this case is not a ‘free’ performance upgrade. Furthermore, buyers in Germany have to pay VAT of 19%. The good news, however, is that as per European laws, the CPUs are backed with a two-year warranty.
Related Reading:
- The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X Raising The Bar
- AMD Zen 2 Microarchitecture Analysis: Ryzen 3000 and EPYC Rome
- The AMD X570 Motherboard Overview: Over 35+ Motherboards Analyzed
- AMD Ryzen 3000 Announced: Five CPUs, 12 Cores for $499, Up to 4.6 GHz, PCIe 4.0, Coming 7/7
- AMD 16-Core Ryzen 9 3950X: Up to 4.7 GHz, 105W, Coming September
Sources: Hardwareluxx, Caseking, Tom’s Hardware
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eek2121 - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
IMO it's pointless to overclock with Ryzen. You will likely see better performance by NOT overclocking. This is by no way an insult to AMD, it's just that they maximize performance out of the box.With the right BIOS, the 3900X should hit 4.6 GHz on at least 2 cores (if not more) as long as you have sufficient cooling. I know some people have seen all core 4.6 GHz boost when not overclocked as long as the chip is kept cool. The problem is that the AGESA situation was (is?) a mess. Many folks initially weren't seeing advertised boost, while others were.
FreckledTrout - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Well here's to hoping AMD does a higher bin 8-core. Looks like it should be entirely possible.nandnandnand - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
If I'm not mistaken, all Ryzen 3000 chips so far have had 6-8 cores enabled per chiplet. But they could do a 2 chiplet 8-core with 4 cores enabled on each, and higher clocks. Right?willis936 - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
This would decrease yield because the disabled cores could have defects in them. If they did go this route it would add cost to find which cores are the highest performing cores. I know you can set the number of active cores in BIOS, but it might be neat to select which specific cores are disable to allow enthusiasts to characterize each core and go into a fewer core, higher single threaded performance mode. It would also allow cute things like maximally spreading thermal load across the dies.nandnandnand - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Actually, I was thinking they would specifically use the chiplets with 3-4 bad cores in them. And then hit higher clocks simply because more of the chiplet is dark.The same chiplets are used in Epyc, Ryzen, and soon Threadripper, so they must have a stockpile of these "half good" chiplets by now.
Irata - Thursday, August 15, 2019 - link
They are probably harvesting their better bins for Rome right now. But yes, a higher bin eight core (3850x ?) some time in the future would be nice, especially as an upgrade option later on.scineram - Thursday, August 15, 2019 - link
With two chiplets.yeeeeman - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
This is a waste of money. Most ryzen 3000 CPUs top out at 4.2-4.3Ghz anyway and that say, 100mhz difference between your average Cpu compared to a binned one gets you almost negligible performance increase, especially on a low core count Cpu like the 3700x.GreenReaper - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Yeah. Now, if we're talking APUs, I can see the challenge to get a micro-system as fast as possible...but then, I'd wait until next year's are out, because what's the point without Zen 2?sor - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
You’re going from a 3.6-3.8ghz base to a 4.3ghz base. That’s significant. Now, if the argument is that most of the chips will do 4.2ghz anyway, well that’s the gamble you take in choosing pre-binned or not. You pay for the guarantee.