14nm Comet Lake-U Shipping to OEMs in Novemberby Ian Cutress on June 3, 2019 8:00 AM EST
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If you’re having a tough time following Intel’s new array of code names, don’t worry, you are not alone. The split between mainstream and U-series and Y-series has us all confused. There’s a Whiskey Lake, and Amber Lake, and at some point in the future a Tiger Lake. Comet Lake, believed to be a future desktop CPU (still on 14nm), looks like it is coming down into that 15W power envelope later this year in Q4.
In our discussions on the Computex show floor with a partner, they identified that upcoming mini-PC products that have previously been built on U-series processors will soon be updated to Comet Lake. Intel’s partner stated that they would be updating the product line with the new CPUs in November, however retail of those machines might not occur until a little bit later.
We did explicitly clarify with the partner that they were specifically talking about Comet Lake, and in the ~15W envelope, just in case we didn't hear correctly. They concurred.
This is an interesting development, because this means that Intel is likely to have two different U-series CPU lines in the market at the same time: the Ice Lake 9W-28W parts announced last week, presumably for the premium and high-end designs, and Comet Lake at 15W for the more budget oriented platforms. Given the rumors regarding Intel’s 10nm yields, and the known issues around the supply of Intel’s 14nm, this could be a way of bridging the gap between the high-cost and low-cost systems.
It will be interesting to see when Intel wants to talk about Comet Lake, either in a 15W form factor or something a little bit bigger. Just don’t ask what version of 14nm it is made on. Just for kicks, it might be called '10th Gen' too.
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Gondalf - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkAnd what about others 7nm versus Intel 14nm ??
Looking at AMD future offering an already mature 7nm from TSMC can not beat or match Intel 14nm in clock speed. Everyone else's 7nm is not even able to allow AMD to build an SKU "full 7nm". Everyone else's 7nm is so bad that do not allow AMD to ship an APU.
Come on man.
goatfajitas - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkThat and you have to look at things that are released or at least about to be released (Like Ryzen2) vs. Intel's yet unreleased vapor.
Gondalf - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkHave you see it yet?? I nope.
goatfajitas - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkIf you are talking about Ryzen 2, I have seen benchmarks - looks like a beast.
Korguz - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkat least the others are SHIPPING 7nm products in what looks like volume.. intel's 10nm.. very limited.. amd doesnt need to match in clock speed as it looks like with a 400 mhz deficit.. its matching intel in performance.. if amd match intel in clock speed.. it would make intel look even worse what do you mean by " build a full 7nm sku " ??? amd isnt shipping a 7 nm apu.. cause maybe its not ready yet ?? maybe amd chose to ship desktop 1st ?
come on man...
Gondalf - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkFor now i see only slow phone SOCs. About AMD i can see only slides and fake SKUs showed to journalists. We ll see what will be the availability of Ryzen 2.
Intel have to supply the channels in large volume, AMD nope, some retail SKUs are enough to say "we are faster" ?.
We'll se if AMD will be able to satisfy the OEMs demand, in desktop and expecially in mobile that is 70% of the total market.
Korguz - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkamd will be better able to then intels over 4 years late 10nm vapor cpus they have been promising.... either way.. we will see zen 2 based cpus in just over 1 month.. will we EVER see intel 10nm in volume ??????
Irish_adam - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkWhat does clock speed have to do with it? Clock speed hasn't gone up with a process node for a while. Also how many years and modifications did Intel need to squeeze 5ghz out of their 14nm?
Gondalf - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkThis is not true, older processes were not able to turbo easy at 5Ghz without exotic levels of vcore.
Korguz - Monday, June 3, 2019 - linkgondalf.. actually, he is right.. clock speed has nothing to do with performacnce.. and it has taken intel this long to reach 5 ghz.. with out exotic cooling....