AMD: 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper in 2019
by Anton Shilov on March 6, 2019 12:20 PM EST- Posted in
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- Rome
- Ryzen 3rd Gen
- Matisse
In a new presentation for investors AMD announced a more precise launch plan for its client APUs and CPUs for desktop, mobile, and server computers. The company is preparing to update its whole lineup of products for different types of client and server machines later this year.
As it turns out, AMD intends to release its 2nd Generation Ryzen Pro mobile products for notebooks this spring. AMD also plans to introduce its 3rd Generation Ryzen processors sometimes in the middle of the year. A bit later on the company is set to launch its 3rd Generation Ryzen Threadripper CPUs for extreme desktops and workstations. AMD’s codenamed Rome processors for servers are also due in 2019, but the manufacturer does not elaborate about their exact timing.
AMD’s 2nd Gen Ryzen Pro 3000-series quad-core processors are based on the Zen+ microarchitecture and are made using GlobalFoundries’ 12LP process technology, just like their non-Pro counterparts. The latter are set to become available in the near future, so we are going to learn more about what to expect from these upcoming APUs shortly.
AMD’s 3rd Gen Ryzen processors for desktops rely on the brand-new design code-named Matisse. Matisse features two dies: a chiplet die containing eight cores based on the Zen 2 microarchitecture, and built using TSMC’s 7N manufacturing process; and an I/O die featuring PCIe 4.0 lanes, and built using GlobalFoundries’ 14LPP fabrication technology.
AMD’s 2nd Gen EPYC (codenamed Rome) and 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper processors have a lot in common. EPYC will have eight 7nm Zen 2-based chiplets to provide up to 64 cores and an IO die. We expect the 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper to be built on the same platform, but we don't expect to see parity on power/core/frequency based on how the first generation Threadripper only offered half the cores of the 1st Gen EPYC. We would be pleasantly surprised if there was core configuration parity!
This is a breaking news. We are adding more details as we learn them.
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zmatt - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
It will take some time for AVX512 to be widely adopted. New instructions are always slow to get deep market penetration. This is due to several reasons but one of the major ones is that for most programmers it isn't up to them at all. what instructions are used is something usually determined at the compiler level not necessarily in the source code. Different instructions can be selected to be used in the compiler settings but it can be hard to know what exactly comes out on the other side. Long running projects are also unlikely to immediately start supporting new features for the sake of compatibility and if you are a developer who uses a high level interpreted language like JavaScript or Python then you are so far removed from the metal you have effectively zero say in what assembly level instructions are called.The_Assimilator - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
Compatibility is not an issue, you just guard the AVX512 codepath behind a CPUID check, and if the CPU doesn't have AVX512 you simply fall back on the current codepath.Thunder 57 - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
Why check the CPUID when you can check for "GeniuneIntel"? /sHStewart - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
The real big difference is that AMD is basing there numbers on pre-Sunny Cove, Sunny Cove changes everything besides just AVX512 is going be include as standard on Sunny Cove processorsSunny cove has even more significant architexture changes that should significantly change performance with more execution units and larger caches.
Also I not sure how far Intel plans to go with Foveres 3D packaging - which should significantly help the CPU by allowing more transistors in same CPU area - allowing IO, CPU, GPU and Memory ( likely graphics memory ) to all be on different levels.
Alistair - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
So basically you're saying people didn't buy AMD when they were behind. Now they are up to 6 months ahead of Intel you still want to wait for Intel?Alistair - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Current pricing on Intel CPU's is ludicrous. I've built so many 2600/2600x/2700/2700x computers in the last few months mainly because of the pricing problem Intel has right now.Manch - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
I'll sum up HStewart's comments on every article whether or not it's about Intel, this is what he will say....HStewart: Intel shill shill shill shilly mcshill shill shillty shill shill, shill. AMD sucks. Intel shillllllllllllll......
Thunder 57 - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
That's about right. I wonder why this bozo doesn't show up in the forums? Because his nonsense would be ripped apart?Xyler94 - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
I really, really don't share your enthusiastic "Significant change in performance" as you do. On paper, yes Sonny Cove looks amazing, but so did Skylake compared to Haswell. I'm expecting at most 15% increase from the architecture change. Remember AMD also doubled parts of their execution code path, namely the AVX stuff from Zen+ to Zen2, and that gained them up to 28% in very specific workloads.But you'll ignore this, as all shills do
voicequal - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
3D particle movement should probably be running on a GPU.